Comments on: Where are the Apostles and Prophets? http://www.revivalblog.com/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/ Didn't our hearts burn within us? Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:53:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Aby Baby http://www.revivalblog.com/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20847 Aby Baby Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:23:00 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2007/08/08/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20847 hi All, We at King's Ministries International now started the church ministry too. We look forward to have association with our growing network, We have a team of youngsters who are annointed for Five fold ministry. Every week we are conducting new meetings in different parts of the Southern State of India. We Welcome people to join with us in prayer. We do have wonderful projects ahead. Stay Connected with King's Ministries international. Our web address is www.kingsministries.com Check us out! hi All,
We at King’s Ministries International now started the church ministry too. We look forward to have association with our growing network, We have a team of youngsters who are annointed for Five fold ministry. Every week we are conducting new meetings in different parts of the Southern State of India. We Welcome people to join with us in prayer. We do have wonderful projects ahead. Stay Connected with King’s Ministries international. Our web address is http://www.kingsministries.com Check us out!

]]> By: Eric http://www.revivalblog.com/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20594 Eric Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:40:16 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2007/08/08/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20594 by the way, my church web address is www.clife.cc .... check us out! by the way, my church web address is http://www.clife.cc …. check us out!

]]> By: Eric http://www.revivalblog.com/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20593 Eric Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:39:36 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2007/08/08/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20593 I agree with what you are saying... just as you said, this is not a slap to all AG folks... I am an AG Licensed pastor of a church. I am 5 fold, my church is 5 fold and we will not be moved! God has done great things at our church because we have allowed Him to do so and not confined Him to a box. it will be very interesting to see what transpires in the AG over the next year or so... I agree with what you are saying… just as you said, this is not a slap to all AG folks… I am an AG Licensed pastor of a church. I am 5 fold, my church is 5 fold and we will not be moved! God has done great things at our church because we have allowed Him to do so and not confined Him to a box. it will be very interesting to see what transpires in the AG over the next year or so…

]]> By: carl http://www.revivalblog.com/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20590 carl Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:56:37 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2007/08/08/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20590 @Ruben - It is. I have done it for lots of folks I didn't even know. There are lots of options that are easy and free (though one really good one). Let me know. @Ruben - It is. I have done it for lots of folks I didn’t even know. There are lots of options that are easy and free (though one really good one).

Let me know.

]]> By: Ruben http://www.revivalblog.com/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20589 Ruben Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:22:42 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2007/08/08/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20589 @ Carl … is that an offer for technical assistance? You may not know it, but your writings have caught the attention of the national office of “Watch Dog Ministries.” They keep me on retainer when concerns arise in your geographical area. :) @ Patsy, I took no offense, so be at peace. I no longer attend an AG church. Sadly, the things being said in this discussion about the AG are valid. I wish you the best with your research about AA Allen. @ Carl … is that an offer for technical assistance? You may not know it, but your writings have caught the attention of the national office of “Watch Dog Ministries.” They keep me on retainer when concerns arise in your geographical area. :)

@ Patsy, I took no offense, so be at peace. I no longer attend an AG church. Sadly, the things being said in this discussion about the AG are valid. I wish you the best with your research about AA Allen.

]]> By: Patsy Eastwood http://www.revivalblog.com/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20588 Patsy Eastwood Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:49:03 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2007/08/08/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20588 Reuben, thanks for your insight in the AG. I did not mean to suggest that there was never a time that God wasn't doing stuff in the AG. By the way, I am doing research into AA Allen. I would love to chat with you about what you remember. Would you email me at rahabsplace@hotmail.com if you are willing to share your memories? Reuben, thanks for your insight in the AG. I did not mean to suggest that there was never a time that God wasn’t doing stuff in the AG.

By the way, I am doing research into AA Allen. I would love to chat with you about what you remember. Would you email me at rahabsplace@hotmail.com if you are willing to share your memories?

]]> By: carl http://www.revivalblog.com/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20587 carl Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:25:38 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2007/08/08/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20587 @Ruben - Great to see you coming out of the shadows and chime in. I did not think of you when I wrote this but I know you have lots to say on the matter (maybe the beginning of a blog of your own?) The AG does have a rich heritage and I do believe the overt racism is in the past. That being said, there is something about doing something the devil wants to persecute that lights the flame of revival. That something has left the AG as a movement. There may be pockets but by and large, it is gone. @Ruben - Great to see you coming out of the shadows and chime in. I did not think of you when I wrote this but I know you have lots to say on the matter (maybe the beginning of a blog of your own?)

The AG does have a rich heritage and I do believe the overt racism is in the past.

That being said, there is something about doing something the devil wants to persecute that lights the flame of revival. That something has left the AG as a movement. There may be pockets but by and large, it is gone.

]]> By: carl http://www.revivalblog.com/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20586 carl Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:22:44 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2007/08/08/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20586 slw - Me neither. If it were a dead move, nobody would care. But it is not dead! And they should not let it die! And I think we are in agreement that the national office should not be a career path. The way it is set up, the position is not Apostolic so it is some corporate aberration. Have the pastors pastor! slw - Me neither. If it were a dead move, nobody would care. But it is not dead! And they should not let it die!

And I think we are in agreement that the national office should not be a career path. The way it is set up, the position is not Apostolic so it is some corporate aberration.

Have the pastors pastor!

]]> By: Ruben http://www.revivalblog.com/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20585 Ruben Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:14:36 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2007/08/08/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20585 As you know, Carl, I have resisted the temptation to jump in … but then … everyone has their weakness. I have been blessed and challenged by your posts. Just a few thoughts. As a child I attended AA Allen meetings (yep it dates me), and I was profoundly moved by the Holy Spirit, received a significant impartation, and witnessed many exceptional miracles. As to his death and the circumstances, I can not say. But the meetings I attended consisted of genuine encounters with the Holy Spirit, at least for me. I remember them with fondness. My family was saved in a small AG church (40 people), where in the community the members were considered a cult, and those who did become “holy-rollers” were persecuted. I was persecuted in middle school. As far as I know, I was the only Christian student, and I carried my Bible each day to school and put it on the top of my desk. It was a tough year. Not even the adults intervened, except on one occasion. I remember the fights at home when my mother got saved. Dad threw her out of the house two times with a suitcase. She stood her ground, and with the support of the godly people in that church, my family as well as many of my relatives today has a personal relationship with Jesus. We had meetings that went on for hours where all we did was wait on the leading of the Holy Spirit. A three hour meeting would seem like only a few minutes. It was amazing and wonderful. Eventually the persecuted minority grew (about 150) and was responsible for a youth revival in the two high schools in town. Astonishing things happened as I witnessed many of the kids that I attended school with come to Jesus and filled with the Holy Spirit. There were signs and wonders and experiences in the Spirit. Yes, things may have changed … but I am grateful for the heritage that I received in the AG. The first time that I received ministry in a “prophetic presbytery” by those recognized as a prophet by the local church (and in the local church) was years later in an AG church (1500 people). David Cartledge is the author of a book entitled: “The Apostolic Revolution – The Restoration of Apostles and Prophets in the Assemblies of God in Australia.” It was published in 2000. While I have not been to Australia, it is a fascinating read, though lengthy and at times laborious – 415 pages. Racism is a sin. It should not be tolerated. Is everything well in the AG? No. Was everything well in the churches that received letters that we call today call the New Testament? No. And … do I attend an AG church today? No. But my heart will always carry precious memories because it was through the AG that I met my first love – Jesus. As you know, Carl, I have resisted the temptation to jump in … but then … everyone has their weakness. I have been blessed and challenged by your posts. Just a few thoughts.

As a child I attended AA Allen meetings (yep it dates me), and I was profoundly moved by the Holy Spirit, received a significant impartation, and witnessed many exceptional miracles. As to his death and the circumstances, I can not say. But the meetings I attended consisted of genuine encounters with the Holy Spirit, at least for me. I remember them with fondness.

My family was saved in a small AG church (40 people), where in the community the members were considered a cult, and those who did become “holy-rollers” were persecuted. I was persecuted in middle school. As far as I know, I was the only Christian student, and I carried my Bible each day to school and put it on the top of my desk. It was a tough year. Not even the adults intervened, except on one occasion. I remember the fights at home when my mother got saved. Dad threw her out of the house two times with a suitcase. She stood her ground, and with the support of the godly people in that church, my family as well as many of my relatives today has a personal relationship with Jesus. We had meetings that went on for hours where all we did was wait on the leading of the Holy Spirit. A three hour meeting would seem like only a few minutes. It was amazing and wonderful. Eventually the persecuted minority grew (about 150) and was responsible for a youth revival in the two high schools in town. Astonishing things happened as I witnessed many of the kids that I attended school with come to Jesus and filled with the Holy Spirit. There were signs and wonders and experiences in the Spirit.

Yes, things may have changed … but I am grateful for the heritage that I received in the AG. The first time that I received ministry in a “prophetic presbytery” by those recognized as a prophet by the local church (and in the local church) was years later in an AG church (1500 people).

David Cartledge is the author of a book entitled: “The Apostolic Revolution – The Restoration of Apostles and Prophets in the Assemblies of God in Australia.” It was published in 2000. While I have not been to Australia, it is a fascinating read, though lengthy and at times laborious – 415 pages.

Racism is a sin. It should not be tolerated.

Is everything well in the AG? No.

Was everything well in the churches that received letters that we call today call the New Testament? No.

And … do I attend an AG church today? No. But my heart will always carry precious memories because it was through the AG that I met my first love – Jesus.

]]> By: slw http://www.revivalblog.com/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20584 slw Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:09:49 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2007/08/08/where-are-the-apostles-and-prophets/#comment-20584 Carl: Didn't think the A/G as a topic would get so much, ahem, attention. I really do like one suggestion you made, to do away with sitting superintendancies, and instead task sitting pastors with those leadership responsibilities. Staff could easily be hired to maintain retirement, healthcare, finances, etc. Why waste productive, gifted church leadership by sending them off to be paper jockeys in Springfield and all the various District Headquarters. Folks of that stature can't sit and twiddle their thumbs and so their energies go into expanding bloated bureaucracies, and building worthless buildings. Thereby the institution grows instead of the church. That would be a great change! Carl:
Didn’t think the A/G as a topic would get so much, ahem, attention. I really do like one suggestion you made, to do away with sitting superintendancies, and instead task sitting pastors with those leadership responsibilities. Staff could easily be hired to maintain retirement, healthcare, finances, etc. Why waste productive, gifted church leadership by sending them off to be paper jockeys in Springfield and all the various District Headquarters. Folks of that stature can’t sit and twiddle their thumbs and so their energies go into expanding bloated bureaucracies, and building worthless buildings. Thereby the institution grows instead of the church. That would be a great change!

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