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	<title>Comments on: Note to Budding Ministers:  Do What You Do</title>
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	<description>Didn't our hearts burn within us?</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, amen and amen on this one!  Sometimes when we get so focused on the ministry machine we forget what it is supposed to be all about--real people following a real God in real community. Part of being real is being you, like you said. 

This is part of what has drawn me to simple church expressions (house church/organic church a la Mozambique/Heidi Baker).  I think people may have an easier time being themselves in an environment like that without all the &quot;churchy&quot; baggage.  Plus there&#039;s a lot more for the &#039;laymen&#039; to do (can you say every member minsitry/priesthood of believers?)

I&#039;m looking forward to the day when simple church and revival fully merge--we&#039;ll go viral then, baby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, amen and amen on this one!  Sometimes when we get so focused on the ministry machine we forget what it is supposed to be all about&#8211;real people following a real God in real community. Part of being real is being you, like you said. </p>
<p>This is part of what has drawn me to simple church expressions (house church/organic church a la Mozambique/Heidi Baker).  I think people may have an easier time being themselves in an environment like that without all the &#8220;churchy&#8221; baggage.  Plus there&#8217;s a lot more for the &#8216;laymen&#8217; to do (can you say every member minsitry/priesthood of believers?)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to the day when simple church and revival fully merge&#8211;we&#8217;ll go viral then, baby!</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once heard church growth conferences described as (pardon the bluntness) &quot;ministry pornography&quot;- i.e. airbrushed pictures of unattainable perfection that preachers lust after.  Just as a real man of God will prefer and choose marriage to and love for a real woman of God over the phoniness of porn, a called man who loves Jesus will choose to use his gifts in ministry with real people, including the struggles and failures, over plastic programs and man made systems.  Reality is better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once heard church growth conferences described as (pardon the bluntness) &#8220;ministry pornography&#8221;- i.e. airbrushed pictures of unattainable perfection that preachers lust after.  Just as a real man of God will prefer and choose marriage to and love for a real woman of God over the phoniness of porn, a called man who loves Jesus will choose to use his gifts in ministry with real people, including the struggles and failures, over plastic programs and man made systems.  Reality is better.</p>
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		<title>By: Patsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl, what an awesome post.  You know, Jesus lived with his little band of revivalists for three years and then shook the entire world, and is still shaking it, out of that little band of followers. 

I, too, am planting in NM.  I look at the big ministries and I think, is that really what I want?  To have the machine and never have real contact with my people?  

I admire Bill Johnson.  One of the things he is doing that is awesome is BeenUp2.  He is so interactive with his massive extended family through that medium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl, what an awesome post.  You know, Jesus lived with his little band of revivalists for three years and then shook the entire world, and is still shaking it, out of that little band of followers. </p>
<p>I, too, am planting in NM.  I look at the big ministries and I think, is that really what I want?  To have the machine and never have real contact with my people?  </p>
<p>I admire Bill Johnson.  One of the things he is doing that is awesome is BeenUp2.  He is so interactive with his massive extended family through that medium.</p>
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		<title>By: carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@SLW - This is but the beginning.  I am telling you, I have found my groove.

Ley - Amen

Jungle&#039;s Wife - It&#039;s in that place of risk that miracles happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SLW &#8211; This is but the beginning.  I am telling you, I have found my groove.</p>
<p>Ley &#8211; Amen</p>
<p>Jungle&#8217;s Wife &#8211; It&#8217;s in that place of risk that miracles happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jungle's Wife</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jungle's Wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inspiring indeed!  It has taken me years to realize I was trying to minister in someone else&#039;s worship leader armor.  Now that I&#039;ve taken that clunky stuff off, I&#039;m feeling rather vulnerable...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inspiring indeed!  It has taken me years to realize I was trying to minister in someone else&#8217;s worship leader armor.  Now that I&#8217;ve taken that clunky stuff off, I&#8217;m feeling rather vulnerable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baptize us in the Holy Spirit, Baptize us in Fire!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baptize us in the Holy Spirit, Baptize us in Fire!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: slw</title>
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		<dc:creator>slw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tnat was amazing! That may well be the most inspiring thing I have seen you write. All we have is the word God gives us. Paul went out audaciously, and changed the world with nothing but it. For those that know God will back up his word, that is enough, for those that don&#039;t... grab the megaphone and start the bark, &quot;Hurry, hurry, hurry! Step right up...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tnat was amazing! That may well be the most inspiring thing I have seen you write. All we have is the word God gives us. Paul went out audaciously, and changed the world with nothing but it. For those that know God will back up his word, that is enough, for those that don&#8217;t&#8230; grab the megaphone and start the bark, &#8220;Hurry, hurry, hurry! Step right up&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen!  I can&#039;t believe the grief you got about the NC meeting.  By the way, you might be the first person to comment on my blog who had a gravatar other than me.

Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen!  I can&#8217;t believe the grief you got about the NC meeting.  By the way, you might be the first person to comment on my blog who had a gravatar other than me.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: iamhealed.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; EXCELLENT post by Carl @ Revival Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>iamhealed.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; EXCELLENT post by Carl @ Revival Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Carl wrote an excellent post on church planting God&#8217;s way. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Carl wrote an excellent post on church planting God&#8217;s way. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you see me jumping up and down, shouting, AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!!  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you see me jumping up and down, shouting, AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!!  <img src='http://www.revivalblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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