Comments on: An Open Rebuke to “Wor$hip” Leaders http://www.revivalblog.com/an-open-rebuke-to-worhip-leaders/ Didn't our hearts burn within us? Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:06:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Kelly http://www.revivalblog.com/an-open-rebuke-to-worhip-leaders/#comment-22503 Kelly Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:34:10 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2008/01/23/an-open-rebuke-to-worhip-leaders/#comment-22503 You mean people get PAID to minister? Boy, have I ever been missing out...;) You mean people get PAID to minister? Boy, have I ever been missing out…;)

]]> By: carl http://www.revivalblog.com/an-open-rebuke-to-worhip-leaders/#comment-21205 carl Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:02:57 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2008/01/23/an-open-rebuke-to-worhip-leaders/#comment-21205 @Shane - I hear ya! I am blessed that the first people God joined to me are musicians and evangelists. Thats better than silver and gold! @Kathi - <i>"Thereâ' a big difference between paying someone to show up, and paying someone so they can focus exclusively on something, and it will show in whatever they put their hand to."</i> Amen to that! @Shane - I hear ya! I am blessed that the first people God joined to me are musicians and evangelists. Thats better than silver and gold!

@Kathi - “Thereâ’ a big difference between paying someone to show up, and paying someone so they can focus exclusively on something, and it will show in whatever they put their hand to.”

Amen to that!

]]> By: carl http://www.revivalblog.com/an-open-rebuke-to-worhip-leaders/#comment-21204 carl Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:42:24 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2008/01/23/an-open-rebuke-to-worhip-leaders/#comment-21204 @David - Preach on Preacherman! @David - Preach on Preacherman!

]]> By: Kathi Sharpe http://www.revivalblog.com/an-open-rebuke-to-worhip-leaders/#comment-21203 Kathi Sharpe Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:55:58 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2008/01/23/an-open-rebuke-to-worhip-leaders/#comment-21203 It doesn't matter what the profession - in the church (I know pastors like this!) or in secular positions (teachers come to mind)... some people are in it for money, and others are in it for love. There's a big difference between paying someone to show up, and paying someone so they can focus exclusively on something, and it will show in whatever they put their hand to. (hmmmm... "can focus" or "will focus"... therein lies the difference, methinks) Colossians 3:23 "And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men..." It doesn’t matter what the profession - in the church (I know pastors like this!) or in secular positions (teachers come to mind)… some people are in it for money, and others are in it for love.

There’s a big difference between paying someone to show up, and paying someone so they can focus exclusively on something, and it will show in whatever they put their hand to. (hmmmm… “can focus” or “will focus”… therein lies the difference, methinks)

Colossians 3:23 “And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men…”

]]> By: David Copeland http://www.revivalblog.com/an-open-rebuke-to-worhip-leaders/#comment-21200 David Copeland Thu, 24 Jan 2008 03:34:52 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2008/01/23/an-open-rebuke-to-worhip-leaders/#comment-21200 welcome to the joys of church planting... and the problem I call "mammonism" that's my king james comin' out of me!!! and I don't understand hwy churches will have entertainers and pay them 3,000-6,000 for one service and complain about giving an evangelist 500 for a whole week of services.... uuuurrrrrrrrr! sorry to vent...you can delete this if you need to! welcome to the joys of church planting…

and the problem I call “mammonism”

that’s my king james comin’ out of me!!!

and I don’t understand hwy churches will have entertainers and pay them 3,000-6,000 for one service and complain about giving an evangelist 500 for a whole week of services….

uuuurrrrrrrrr!

sorry to vent…you can delete this if you need to!

]]> By: Shane Ogle http://www.revivalblog.com/an-open-rebuke-to-worhip-leaders/#comment-21198 Shane Ogle Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:32:05 +0000 http://www.revivalblog.com/2008/01/23/an-open-rebuke-to-worhip-leaders/#comment-21198 Carl, I hear your pain. When we started our church in the North Nashville area almost nine years ago now -- we had a time trying to find a musician for our measely five. I led accapella. My hope was that the anointing would rest on my preaching to cause the few we had to forget how bad of a worship leader I was. (Not only that -- I am what we call "handiclapped" - couldn't clap on beat to save my life.) I heard Brian Zahnd (my Overseer/Pastor) tell of how he prayed 2 Kings 3:15 -- "Bring me a musician" and how the hand of the Lord came upon Elisha the prophet to speak the oracle of God. We needed that bad! Years ago, I youth pastored not far from where I am now. The minister of music of that church had had all sorts of troubles finding musicians willing to play w/o pay. (There were some mind you that would play for nothing -- but most of them went to larger churches). Anyway, she came to a service of ours (and we are very blessed with some wonderful musicians who love the Lord). I told her, "I figured out how to get musicians in your church." She was baffled. "How?" she asked. "You get 'em saved!" That's somewhat tongue-n-cheek -- I will say our worship leader resigned his fultime position in St. Louis and moved here for $100 a month. I would never ask a man/woman to do that -- only God could do that. That same man is with us today -- some eight and half years later! Be encouraged brother -- God will provide. Carl,

I hear your pain. When we started our church in the North Nashville area almost nine years ago now — we had a time trying to find a musician for our measely five. I led accapella. My hope was that the anointing would rest on my preaching to cause the few we had to forget how bad of a worship leader I was. (Not only that — I am what we call “handiclapped” - couldn’t clap on beat to save my life.)

I heard Brian Zahnd (my Overseer/Pastor) tell of how he prayed 2 Kings 3:15 — “Bring me a musician” and how the hand of the Lord came upon Elisha the prophet to speak the oracle of God. We needed that bad!

Years ago, I youth pastored not far from where I am now. The minister of music of that church had had all sorts of troubles finding musicians willing to play w/o pay. (There were some mind you that would play for nothing — but most of them went to larger churches).

Anyway, she came to a service of ours (and we are very blessed with some wonderful musicians who love the Lord). I told her, “I figured out how to get musicians in your church.”

She was baffled. “How?” she asked.

“You get ‘em saved!”

That’s somewhat tongue-n-cheek — I will say our worship leader resigned his fultime position in St. Louis and moved here for $100 a month. I would never ask a man/woman to do that — only God could do that. That same man is with us today — some eight and half years later!

Be encouraged brother — God will provide.

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