Comments on: Am I Religious? http://www.revivalblog.com/am-i-religious/ Didn't our hearts burn within us? Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:52:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Mark H http://www.revivalblog.com/am-i-religious/#comment-7337 Mark H Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:06:09 +0000 http://revivalblog.com/2006/09/08/am-i-religious/#comment-7337 "to admonish, exhort, beg, entreat and beseech" sounds like good discipling and teaching to me? ad‧mon‧ish –verb (used with object) 1. to caution, advise, or counsel against something. 2. to reprove or scold, esp. in a mild and good-willed manner: The teacher admonished him about excessive noise. 3. to urge to a duty; remind: to admonish them about their obligations. :-D “to admonish, exhort, beg, entreat and beseech” sounds like good discipling and teaching to me?

ad‧mon‧ish
–verb (used with object)
1. to caution, advise, or counsel against something.
2. to reprove or scold, esp. in a mild and good-willed manner: The teacher admonished him about excessive noise.
3. to urge to a duty; remind: to admonish them about their obligations.

:-D

]]> By: carl http://www.revivalblog.com/am-i-religious/#comment-7234 carl Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:38:07 +0000 http://revivalblog.com/2006/09/08/am-i-religious/#comment-7234 Marc, Don't let sound hermeneutics get in the way of an interpretation of Scripture. ;) Thanks for the follow up Marc,

Don’t let sound hermeneutics get in the way of an interpretation of Scripture.
;)

Thanks for the follow up

]]> By: Marc V http://www.revivalblog.com/am-i-religious/#comment-7233 Marc V Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:30:01 +0000 http://revivalblog.com/2006/09/08/am-i-religious/#comment-7233 I got off my lazy rear and looked it up (<a href="http://www.usaquality.com/bible/strongs/ref/?stgh=greek&stnm=3870">parakleo</a>) beseech 43, comfort 23, exhort 21, desire 8, pray 6, intreat 3, misc 4, vr besought 1; 109 1) to call to one's side, call for, summon 2) to address, speak to, (call to, call upon), which may be done in the way of exhortation, entreaty, comfort, instruction, etc. 2a) to admonish, exhort 2b) to beg, entreat, beseech 2b1) to strive to appease by entreaty 2c) to console, to encourage and strengthen by consolation, to comfort 2c1) to receive consolation, be comforted 2d) to encourage, strengthen 2e) exhorting and comforting and encouraging 2f) to instruct, teach [Sounds like there is more consolation/comfort to the word rather than discipling/teaching.] I got off my lazy rear and looked it up (parakleo)

beseech 43, comfort 23, exhort 21, desire 8, pray 6, intreat 3,
misc 4, vr besought 1; 109

1) to call to one’s side, call for, summon
2) to address, speak to, (call to, call upon), which may be done in
the way of exhortation, entreaty, comfort, instruction, etc.
2a) to admonish, exhort
2b) to beg, entreat, beseech
2b1) to strive to appease by entreaty
2c) to console, to encourage and strengthen by consolation, to
comfort
2c1) to receive consolation, be comforted
2d) to encourage, strengthen
2e) exhorting and comforting and encouraging
2f) to instruct, teach

[Sounds like there is more consolation/comfort to the word rather than discipling/teaching.]

]]> By: carl http://www.revivalblog.com/am-i-religious/#comment-7232 carl Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:12:56 +0000 http://revivalblog.com/2006/09/08/am-i-religious/#comment-7232 The greek there is parakaleo. fwiw The greek there is parakaleo. fwiw

]]> By: Marc V http://www.revivalblog.com/am-i-religious/#comment-7231 Marc V Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:45:57 +0000 http://revivalblog.com/2006/09/08/am-i-religious/#comment-7231 I just read that Hebrews passage this morning, and I have to wonder how the Greek word for "encourage" actually translates or what other connotations it may have. Typically, members of a church want to encourage/uplift/make nice, but they tend to shy away from discipling and pointing out sin when they see it. Paul also has a few things to say about mature believers taking positions of leadership, yet I can understand the leadership vacuum that some churches, especially small ones, can experience. I just read that Hebrews passage this morning, and I have to wonder how the Greek word for “encourage” actually translates or what other connotations it may have. Typically, members of a church want to encourage/uplift/make nice, but they tend to shy away from discipling and pointing out sin when they see it.

Paul also has a few things to say about mature believers taking positions of leadership, yet I can understand the leadership vacuum that some churches, especially small ones, can experience.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.revivalblog.com/am-i-religious/#comment-7209 Jeff Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:21:05 +0000 http://revivalblog.com/2006/09/08/am-i-religious/#comment-7209 Karon - don\'t be deceived and let the devil fool you from going to chuch. We are told in [bible]Hebrews 10:25[/bible], \"Let us not forsake the assembling of ourselves together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another, and all the more as you see the Day (of Jesus\' Return) approaching. That means go to church. If the church you were previously attending was \"dead and not very spiritual\" then ask the Lord to guide you to another church but don\'t stop going to church. Karon - don\’t be deceived and let the devil fool you from going to chuch. We are told in [bible]Hebrews 10:25[/bible], \”Let us not forsake the assembling of ourselves together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another, and all the more as you see the Day (of Jesus\’ Return) approaching.

That means go to church. If the church you were previously attending was \”dead and not very spiritual\” then ask the Lord to guide you to another church but don\’t stop going to church.

]]> By: carl http://www.revivalblog.com/am-i-religious/#comment-7084 carl Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:54:45 +0000 http://revivalblog.com/2006/09/08/am-i-religious/#comment-7084 ” The depth of a revival will be determined exactly by the depth of the spirit of repentance.” The bad thing is most churches don't want either. Lord send your fire and pruify! ” The depth of a revival will be determined exactly by the depth of the spirit of repentance.”

The bad thing is most churches don’t want either.

Lord send your fire and pruify!

]]> By: carl http://www.revivalblog.com/am-i-religious/#comment-7062 carl Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:38:00 +0000 http://revivalblog.com/2006/09/08/am-i-religious/#comment-7062 Mark - I wonder this same thing about making people young in the Lord leaders. There is a place for them but it is not leading the congregation. Karon - You make a good point as to why this is so. Tom - The Kingdom of God is not like a multi-level marketing scheme (though plenty of them try to work their way in). Just because someone was first, it does not mean they are the head. John Winber joined the Vineyard once it already had a dozen churches or so. Yet it was clear to all that he was to lead. These young men might surely have a leadership position as far as evangelism is concerned but I doubt that God is going to give oversight responsibility to a teen who has no deep roots in the faith. Not saying it is impossible but the real test will be the fruit. Karon - Go to church. Ruben's model of church is more informal than Mark's and probably a far cry from what David and I are used to but in there somewhere is a place for you. You will never find it in your living room, unless you open it to Ruben for a home church. David - I am going to write on this a little more but Sunday is not for outreach. Outreach is for outreach. The Gospel must go forth! Mark - I wonder this same thing about making people young in the Lord leaders. There is a place for them but it is not leading the congregation.

Karon - You make a good point as to why this is so.

Tom - The Kingdom of God is not like a multi-level marketing scheme (though plenty of them try to work their way in). Just because someone was first, it does not mean they are the head. John Winber joined the Vineyard once it already had a dozen churches or so. Yet it was clear to all that he was to lead. These young men might surely have a leadership position as far as evangelism is concerned but I doubt that God is going to give oversight responsibility to a teen who has no deep roots in the faith. Not saying it is impossible but the real test will be the fruit.

Karon - Go to church. Ruben’s model of church is more informal than Mark’s and probably a far cry from what David and I are used to but in there somewhere is a place for you. You will never find it in your living room, unless you open it to Ruben for a home church.

David - I am going to write on this a little more but Sunday is not for outreach. Outreach is for outreach. The Gospel must go forth!

]]> By: David Copeland http://www.revivalblog.com/am-i-religious/#comment-7058 David Copeland Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:31:11 +0000 http://revivalblog.com/2006/09/08/am-i-religious/#comment-7058 sorry to keep commenting.... Just for the record. as I pulled revivalblog up just now, the "Now Quote was this: " The depth of a revival will be determined exactly by the depth of the spirit of repentance." Frank Bartleman sorry to keep commenting….

Just for the record. as I pulled revivalblog up just now, the “Now Quote was this:
” The depth of a revival will be determined exactly by the depth of the spirit of repentance.”
Frank Bartleman

]]> By: David Copeland http://www.revivalblog.com/am-i-religious/#comment-6997 David Copeland Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:54:17 +0000 http://revivalblog.com/2006/09/08/am-i-religious/#comment-6997 Carl said "I have no desire to be in a church that sets the bar so low that any unconverted person feels at home. Church meetings are supposed to equip the saints to do the work of the ministry. Not a place where convicted consciences are soothed with soft words of a false hope." As I was praying this morning, I am asking the Lord to allow me to preach with a conviction I've never had before...not a conviction of "beliefs" Oh God led the conviction of the Holy Ghost b so strong people WILL be made so uncomfortable they will gladly repent!!! NO MORE COMPROMISE!!! Carl said “I have no desire to be in a church that sets the bar so low that any unconverted person feels at home. Church meetings are supposed to equip the saints to do the work of the ministry. Not a place where convicted consciences are soothed with soft words of a false hope.”

As I was praying this morning, I am asking the Lord to allow me to preach with a conviction I’ve never had before…not a conviction of “beliefs” Oh God led the conviction of the Holy Ghost b so strong people WILL be made so uncomfortable they will gladly repent!!!

NO MORE COMPROMISE!!!

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