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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a horrible dream where there was a fire inside of the white house, however the whitehouse was a different building--like an apartment complex where many people lived.   
Anyway, the president and first lady were on the ground floor, when suddenly there was smoke.  They were being whisked away, onto the elevator, to asend up, but the elevator was slow in coming.  Other tenants were catching wind of the crises and heading toward the elevator.  Panik seemed to grip Barack and his team, as they frantically waited for the elevator.  &quot;They&#039;re coming&quot; 
one of his team warned him, as the tenants began approaching the elevator, smelling smoke.  Just in the nick of time, the door oppened, and Barack and his family were safe in the elevator, ahead of the enquiring crowd.
After arriving on the top floor, Barack began letting others come up with him, onto the top floor, as the fire below was still smoldering.  
It became evident that it wasn&#039;t getting put out as quickly as planned, and so, everyone was allowed to join Barack and his team on top.
Once there, the overflowing tenants found the smoke began to move to the top floor.  Fire was slowly breaking out!  I went down to the middle level, and found a way of escape there. The elevators weren&#039;t working.
Everyone had waited to late to get out!  I watched from the distance while people were burning and screaming!  It was horrible.
The President was whisked out of the building just in time--help had mysteriously &quot;arrived&quot; for him.
Everyone was released...some were injured, most were okay.
I kept sensing that the entire thing was planned, along with Barack barely escaping along with the masses.
Somehow, I sensed that he was a bit nervous that things were taking so long, so maybe it wasn&#039;t planned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a horrible dream where there was a fire inside of the white house, however the whitehouse was a different building&#8211;like an apartment complex where many people lived.<br />
Anyway, the president and first lady were on the ground floor, when suddenly there was smoke.  They were being whisked away, onto the elevator, to asend up, but the elevator was slow in coming.  Other tenants were catching wind of the crises and heading toward the elevator.  Panik seemed to grip Barack and his team, as they frantically waited for the elevator.  &#8220;They&#8217;re coming&#8221;<br />
one of his team warned him, as the tenants began approaching the elevator, smelling smoke.  Just in the nick of time, the door oppened, and Barack and his family were safe in the elevator, ahead of the enquiring crowd.<br />
After arriving on the top floor, Barack began letting others come up with him, onto the top floor, as the fire below was still smoldering.<br />
It became evident that it wasn&#8217;t getting put out as quickly as planned, and so, everyone was allowed to join Barack and his team on top.<br />
Once there, the overflowing tenants found the smoke began to move to the top floor.  Fire was slowly breaking out!  I went down to the middle level, and found a way of escape there. The elevators weren&#8217;t working.<br />
Everyone had waited to late to get out!  I watched from the distance while people were burning and screaming!  It was horrible.<br />
The President was whisked out of the building just in time&#8211;help had mysteriously &#8220;arrived&#8221; for him.<br />
Everyone was released&#8230;some were injured, most were okay.<br />
I kept sensing that the entire thing was planned, along with Barack barely escaping along with the masses.<br />
Somehow, I sensed that he was a bit nervous that things were taking so long, so maybe it wasn&#8217;t planned.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyL</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cousins
A mangled and probably impertinent comment from the UK!
Just discovered this blog re Grace for Mr Bentley - I applaud your Godly approach folks.

The election of a new President is of course YOUR business but it so affects the rest of us outside your borders as the USA, for now, has the kind of status(?) and influence of Rome or Britain in its heyday. God continue to Bless (&amp; Rebuke) America! God continue to Bless (&amp; Rebuke) England!

The &#039;political&#039; issue that drowns out all others is the Genocide of Infants on every continent - many (most?) pacifists would justify the military force used in WW2 that liberated the Jewish people (mixed historical motives I grant you..).
I don&#039;t endorse reciprocal violence just the fist of the ballot box and prayer mixed with grace and mercy for those personally caught in this dilemma.

That aside, my own personal Prophecy re your Election was spectactularly wrong (as I suspected). And I am so pleased Mr Obama is &#039;in&#039;. 
So we now have two great healing statements: - a &#039;black&#039; man in the White House, a &#039;mixed race&#039; man in the White House. May God grant him wisdom and integrity.....
Blog on, chaps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cousins<br />
A mangled and probably impertinent comment from the UK!<br />
Just discovered this blog re Grace for Mr Bentley &#8211; I applaud your Godly approach folks.</p>
<p>The election of a new President is of course YOUR business but it so affects the rest of us outside your borders as the USA, for now, has the kind of status(?) and influence of Rome or Britain in its heyday. God continue to Bless (&amp; Rebuke) America! God continue to Bless (&amp; Rebuke) England!</p>
<p>The &#8216;political&#8217; issue that drowns out all others is the Genocide of Infants on every continent &#8211; many (most?) pacifists would justify the military force used in WW2 that liberated the Jewish people (mixed historical motives I grant you..).<br />
I don&#8217;t endorse reciprocal violence just the fist of the ballot box and prayer mixed with grace and mercy for those personally caught in this dilemma.</p>
<p>That aside, my own personal Prophecy re your Election was spectactularly wrong (as I suspected). And I am so pleased Mr Obama is &#8216;in&#8217;.<br />
So we now have two great healing statements: &#8211; a &#8216;black&#8217; man in the White House, a &#8216;mixed race&#8217; man in the White House. May God grant him wisdom and integrity&#8230;..<br />
Blog on, chaps</p>
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		<title>By: Oh yeah! - StevenBrady.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh yeah! - StevenBrady.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carl Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go do a little experiment.  At your next Christian-political conversation, announce yourself as a pro-life democrat and see how Christians react.  I promise you it will not be good.  

The secular political right has done such a good job of hijacking the church that Christians have swallowed the lie that those not affiliated with the republican party are somehow unchristian. 

I have been a registered republican for quite a while and I have never seen a single person get saved at a republican rally.  Never saw someone get baptized in water.  Never saw someone filled with the Holy Ghost. 

But regardless political affiliation, you still have to call it when people are lying.  And there has been a whole bunch of it in politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go do a little experiment.  At your next Christian-political conversation, announce yourself as a pro-life democrat and see how Christians react.  I promise you it will not be good.  </p>
<p>The secular political right has done such a good job of hijacking the church that Christians have swallowed the lie that those not affiliated with the republican party are somehow unchristian. </p>
<p>I have been a registered republican for quite a while and I have never seen a single person get saved at a republican rally.  Never saw someone get baptized in water.  Never saw someone filled with the Holy Ghost. </p>
<p>But regardless political affiliation, you still have to call it when people are lying.  And there has been a whole bunch of it in politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Adams was a deist,  Jefferson an atheist.  There opinions have no bearing on a Christian&#039;s world view.  The church has to stop looking to the world for validation and seek the righteousness that comes from hearing God.

Besides, I think history has proven Jefferson wrong on many of the points you quoted, specifically the industrial revolution.  But of course the godless are not interested in protecting others, only themselves.  

&quot;Obama is on the verge of election because he’s catering to personal greed by offering to steal more money from richer people (remember, the government has no God-given right to a piece of anyone’s income), and give it to more people who never earned it.&quot;

That is pure nonsense.  Sorry, Rupert Murdock is not the pope of The Revival Blog.  

Since much of the church has lost the sanctifying power of the Holy Ghost they turn to the law to regulate morality.  Again, it is only when we stop looking to these godless &quot;heads of state&quot; for a moral compass that we can find the righteousness that comes from a relationship with Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Adams was a deist,  Jefferson an atheist.  There opinions have no bearing on a Christian&#8217;s world view.  The church has to stop looking to the world for validation and seek the righteousness that comes from hearing God.</p>
<p>Besides, I think history has proven Jefferson wrong on many of the points you quoted, specifically the industrial revolution.  But of course the godless are not interested in protecting others, only themselves.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Obama is on the verge of election because he’s catering to personal greed by offering to steal more money from richer people (remember, the government has no God-given right to a piece of anyone’s income), and give it to more people who never earned it.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is pure nonsense.  Sorry, Rupert Murdock is not the pope of The Revival Blog.  </p>
<p>Since much of the church has lost the sanctifying power of the Holy Ghost they turn to the law to regulate morality.  Again, it is only when we stop looking to these godless &#8220;heads of state&#8221; for a moral compass that we can find the righteousness that comes from a relationship with Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just my humble opinion of course...

I believe that some prophets are caving in to come up with something to say about the election.  The words are mixed with flesh big time.

I am with Theresa whole heartedly.  The Father God I know is one of grace and mercy.  God is love.  We need prophecy that may tear down, but build up also.

Don&#039;t give me a fluff n stuff word, gimme the word of the Lord.  Don&#039;t add your opinions.

Personally the only word I have gotten in the election is pray and love.  Pretty lame, sort of.  It all boils down to this anyway.

We will all have to answer to the Lord our choices in life, even this election.  If you are satisfied with your justification for a certain candidate, you and you alone will answer for that judgment.

I personally have no party.  I vote conscience and God&#039;s ways, if I know them through scripture.  This election is pretty cut and dry this way.

God loves us and loves America.  Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just my humble opinion of course&#8230;</p>
<p>I believe that some prophets are caving in to come up with something to say about the election.  The words are mixed with flesh big time.</p>
<p>I am with Theresa whole heartedly.  The Father God I know is one of grace and mercy.  God is love.  We need prophecy that may tear down, but build up also.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t give me a fluff n stuff word, gimme the word of the Lord.  Don&#8217;t add your opinions.</p>
<p>Personally the only word I have gotten in the election is pray and love.  Pretty lame, sort of.  It all boils down to this anyway.</p>
<p>We will all have to answer to the Lord our choices in life, even this election.  If you are satisfied with your justification for a certain candidate, you and you alone will answer for that judgment.</p>
<p>I personally have no party.  I vote conscience and God&#8217;s ways, if I know them through scripture.  This election is pretty cut and dry this way.</p>
<p>God loves us and loves America.  Period.</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
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		<dc:creator>don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Adams said the Constitution was intended to govern a religious people, and was totally unsuitable for governing any other kind. He meant that the Constitution was intended to govern people who are self-disciplined by a healthy fear-reverence of God. Liberty is not the freedom to do whatever one wants, but the freedom to do what is right according to a conscience that is humbled before God.

American used to be a country where this belief functioned. History shows that even in &quot;wild west&quot; towns, there were very few murders or rapes, because even evil people believed that God could see their actions and would repay them according to their deeds. Government was intended to deal only with those who could not restrain themselves (Paul mentioned this as one of government&#039;s God-given roles.) 

Now, however, all restraint has been cast off and most people - even many Christians - are functional atheists. Many people and families in America are now used to dealing with government agents on a regular basis: police, probation officers, social workers, etc. It didn&#039;t used to be this way.

This is why even Christians are looking to the government for help and justice, because they no longer believe in divine providence or justice, and do not practice self-restraint/discipline. This nation is expecting, more and more, for discipline and justice to come through the government, rather through God.

As a result, the government has become an idol being worshiped, especially since the government got its hands on huge wealth beginning in 1916 with the introduction of a personal income tax. In the 30s, Roosevelt began to introduce socialism with the government as the &quot;sugar daddy&quot; spreading tax wealth around (i.e., robbing some to pay others). 

This socialism has never been repealed or repudiated, and is now accepted by everyone. That&#039;s why Social Security is &quot;the third rail of American politics&quot; - touch it and you die. Even Ronald Reagan didn&#039;t overturn the premise of socialism, though he put a dent in it by cutting back the kinds of things for which Social Security (originally a retirement safety net) funds were being spent, such as chronic alcoholics and other &quot;disabled&quot; people.

Obama is on the verge of election because he&#039;s catering to personal greed by offering to steal more money from richer people (remember, the government has no God-given right to a piece of anyone&#039;s income), and give it to more people who never earned it. This is the Roman &quot;bread and circuses&quot; model: use tax money to hand out favors to as many people as possible, and they will vote you into power, and keep you in power as long as you continue delivering money taken from others.

This was not the intent of the Founding Fathers - in his first inaugural address (1801), Thos. Jefferson stated the accepted belief of his time:

&quot;Still one thing more, fellow-citizens — a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned.&quot;

He also stated in the same speech that one of the goals of the federal government should be: 

&quot;economy in the public expense, that labor may be lightly burthened&quot;

meaning, that the government swhould restrain its spending so that taxation will be light and easy to bear.

Jefferson also stated the belief in a religion that provides &quot;honesty, truth, temperance, gratitude, and the love of man; acknowledging and adoring an overruling Providence...&quot;

Surely our nation has drifted totally away from the foundational beliefs of the Founders, who had disagreements in many things, but not in their belief that men must yield to God and practice his government in their hearts, but not look to political government for many solutions, lest that government tyrannize them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Adams said the Constitution was intended to govern a religious people, and was totally unsuitable for governing any other kind. He meant that the Constitution was intended to govern people who are self-disciplined by a healthy fear-reverence of God. Liberty is not the freedom to do whatever one wants, but the freedom to do what is right according to a conscience that is humbled before God.</p>
<p>American used to be a country where this belief functioned. History shows that even in &#8220;wild west&#8221; towns, there were very few murders or rapes, because even evil people believed that God could see their actions and would repay them according to their deeds. Government was intended to deal only with those who could not restrain themselves (Paul mentioned this as one of government&#8217;s God-given roles.) </p>
<p>Now, however, all restraint has been cast off and most people &#8211; even many Christians &#8211; are functional atheists. Many people and families in America are now used to dealing with government agents on a regular basis: police, probation officers, social workers, etc. It didn&#8217;t used to be this way.</p>
<p>This is why even Christians are looking to the government for help and justice, because they no longer believe in divine providence or justice, and do not practice self-restraint/discipline. This nation is expecting, more and more, for discipline and justice to come through the government, rather through God.</p>
<p>As a result, the government has become an idol being worshiped, especially since the government got its hands on huge wealth beginning in 1916 with the introduction of a personal income tax. In the 30s, Roosevelt began to introduce socialism with the government as the &#8220;sugar daddy&#8221; spreading tax wealth around (i.e., robbing some to pay others). </p>
<p>This socialism has never been repealed or repudiated, and is now accepted by everyone. That&#8217;s why Social Security is &#8220;the third rail of American politics&#8221; &#8211; touch it and you die. Even Ronald Reagan didn&#8217;t overturn the premise of socialism, though he put a dent in it by cutting back the kinds of things for which Social Security (originally a retirement safety net) funds were being spent, such as chronic alcoholics and other &#8220;disabled&#8221; people.</p>
<p>Obama is on the verge of election because he&#8217;s catering to personal greed by offering to steal more money from richer people (remember, the government has no God-given right to a piece of anyone&#8217;s income), and give it to more people who never earned it. This is the Roman &#8220;bread and circuses&#8221; model: use tax money to hand out favors to as many people as possible, and they will vote you into power, and keep you in power as long as you continue delivering money taken from others.</p>
<p>This was not the intent of the Founding Fathers &#8211; in his first inaugural address (1801), Thos. Jefferson stated the accepted belief of his time:</p>
<p>&#8220;Still one thing more, fellow-citizens — a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned.&#8221;</p>
<p>He also stated in the same speech that one of the goals of the federal government should be: </p>
<p>&#8220;economy in the public expense, that labor may be lightly burthened&#8221;</p>
<p>meaning, that the government swhould restrain its spending so that taxation will be light and easy to bear.</p>
<p>Jefferson also stated the belief in a religion that provides &#8220;honesty, truth, temperance, gratitude, and the love of man; acknowledging and adoring an overruling Providence&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Surely our nation has drifted totally away from the foundational beliefs of the Founders, who had disagreements in many things, but not in their belief that men must yield to God and practice his government in their hearts, but not look to political government for many solutions, lest that government tyrannize them.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Riddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Riddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not arguing that the Republican party is a godly party.   I&#039;m arguing that the social and foreign policy implemented by those on the far left, which is the only people nominated by the democratic party for president recently, is dangerous.   I have no commitment to the Republican party as such.  I am simply a realist about the implications of voting otherwise.  

I encourage people who lean democrat to try push for candidates who are socially conservative and who will be strong against radical Islam, and others that want to wipe us, and freedom out. I would vote for them in a heartbeat.   I also don&#039;t shed any tears for the Ted Stevens, Mark Foley and Tom Delay&#039;s of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not arguing that the Republican party is a godly party.   I&#8217;m arguing that the social and foreign policy implemented by those on the far left, which is the only people nominated by the democratic party for president recently, is dangerous.   I have no commitment to the Republican party as such.  I am simply a realist about the implications of voting otherwise.  </p>
<p>I encourage people who lean democrat to try push for candidates who are socially conservative and who will be strong against radical Islam, and others that want to wipe us, and freedom out. I would vote for them in a heartbeat.   I also don&#8217;t shed any tears for the Ted Stevens, Mark Foley and Tom Delay&#8217;s of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: slw</title>
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		<dc:creator>slw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Pennsylvania, which I think offers a model political climate for the rest of America: pro-lifers are welcome in both the Republican and the Democratic parties. If the national Democratic party had any sense, it would take up the cause of the helpless in the womb and restore its standing with socially conservative working folk. Country club Republicans are not a natural environment for the pro-life movement, it&#039;s more a marriage of convenience rather than conscience. It would be far healthier for America and Christians in America if either party could offer pro-life candidates for national office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Pennsylvania, which I think offers a model political climate for the rest of America: pro-lifers are welcome in both the Republican and the Democratic parties. If the national Democratic party had any sense, it would take up the cause of the helpless in the womb and restore its standing with socially conservative working folk. Country club Republicans are not a natural environment for the pro-life movement, it&#8217;s more a marriage of convenience rather than conscience. It would be far healthier for America and Christians in America if either party could offer pro-life candidates for national office.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would disagree that there is a secular party and a godly one. I think God was showing us this with Sen. Stevens’ conviction.</description>
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