Archive for February, 2008

The Seduction of Riches

I believe that the church in America would be better served if it followed the Bible.  I know that the church of Fox News has the Church convinced that Jesus’ plan to keep America safe is to torture and or kill our enemies but I would like to shine the spotlight in another direction.

Paul made this little plea that we should remember the poor.  Once you see Jesus’ heart for the least of these you really cannot look past them again without pain.  I challenge you to read this post in its entirety:

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We went to lunch and I bought her a hamburger.  She only ate half and when I asked her if she was full she told me she wanted to save the rest so her little sister back home could eat it.

She fell asleep on the ride back to the hotel, her sweaty brown cheek squished up and buried in my t-shirt.  And I prayed, asking God to forgive me for not giving away more of what he’d given me in my lifetime.  “Forgive me” was all I could say holding a child who ate once every three days before Compassion saved her life, didn’t go to school before Compassion educated her, didn’t know she mattered until Compassion told her how much God loved her.  Forgive me.

We have got to return to the Gospel as a church.  I am not talking about a social works gospel.  I am talking about returning to a place where we can be affected by the love of God in a way that it changes how we look at the world around us.  How many people do you know that live below their means for the sole purpose of being able to give?  What are we doing with all this money?

TBN has over $300 million in the bank.  Why do people keep donating to it?  Because they think it will get them rich!  This is perversion!

What will it take for us to have a Gospel centered Christianity in this country?

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The Hermeneutics Quiz

I stumbled onto the hermeneutics quiz from the merge. I scored a 49. They labeled this as a conservative. This is clearly a perfect score but here is what they have to say about my grouping:

First, the conservative hermeneutic group scores 52 or lower. The strength of this view is its emphasis on the authority, ongoing and normative authority, of all of Scripture. It tends to operate with the line many of us learned in Sunday school: “If the Bible says it, that settles it.” Such persons let the Bible challenge them with full force. Literal readings lead to rather literal applications. Most of the time.

The problem, of course, is that very few people are completely consistent here. At times one suspects something other than strict interpretation is going on when the conservative is willing to appeal to history to suspend the commandment to observe a Saturday Sabbath, but does not to appeal to history on other issues (e.g., capital punishment or homosexuality).

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A Biblical Multi-Site Vision II

I know, tomorrow never gets here soon enough.  If you have not read the first post read it here.

While I intended this to be one short post, it has become two somewhat long posts. I really don’t want to toss grenades or slander anyone. So I have written what I think is too much in order not to seem flippant about a really important matter.

So here is the crux of the problem that churches face as I see it. A ministry outgrows their facility and either cannot or will not expand their current location. This could either be because a lack of funds or the exponential cost of building outweighs the benefit (I could rent 3 locations that hold 400 each for the cost of building location that holds that 400). This seems to be wise stewardship of God’s money. But it neglects the greater thing.

I once had a job working for another deacon in my church. I was promoted to Vice-President of the company and was told to buy a new vehicle because the company wanted to pay for a vehicle for me. My wife was five months pregnant and things were looking good. Less than a month after buying the vehicle the owner of the company came into my office to tell me that they were going to eliminate my position to save money. The reason? “We have to be good steward’s of God’s resources.” They found a cheaper way to do the job.

Now in the world, that makes perfect sense. But to say that God is more interested in the bottom line of a company than he is interested in one of His children is beyond false doctrine. A couple of millionaires found a way to make an extra grand a month and jumped at it. They invoked God’s name as a cover for their lust and greed. One of the men even intimated to me that God had challenged him to find out how much money he could make. The problem here is two fold: The first is the belief that material wealth is an end unto itself. Secondly, was the belief that natural prosperity is a sign of God’s blessing. These are carnal, worldly beliefs that erode the teachings of Jesus and block the Grace of God.

Sadly we see the same mentality in the church today.

The wealth of today’s church is not in souls or anointing but in Sunday morning attendance and the increase of that wealth at any means is a sign of God’s blessing on the ministry and their methods.

Let us understand that God almost never stands in the way of a person preaching the Gospel. Whether it be in the pulpit, through a video, on a track, or while in sin, God almost never stops a person from preaching the good news and the Word still will not come back void. But to say that because the Word does not come back void it is ok to preach while in sin, bound in false doctrine, or half false teachings is error. So too is it false to say that because people find Jesus in video venues their existence is favored.

The main cause of this error is the absence of Bishops in todays church. you can point to all kinds of sin, but the truth is that we no longer follow the Word. I had a man try to teach me that the office of Pastor, Bishop and Apostle were all the same thing. Each are distinct and the lack of understanding is causing the problems we see today.

When a man starts a church at the leading of the Lord there is basically one focus, to get as many people from the world into the church to ensure the viability of the ministry. I know we say it is for other reasons but if you cannot pay the rent there is no more ministry. So successful church planters have ingrained into their DNA the need to reach out and invite in. They then pass that onto their leadership teams who then pass it onto the people. Nothing wrong here.

After a period of time, some ministries get really good at this. After spending a great amount of time getting to 250, they went from 1,000 to 2,000 in no time at all. Around this time the leader begins to focus more on training leaders and rejoices from the pulpit that they no longer counsel people. You have heard it, “Be happy I am not counseling you. God has brought people who blah blah blah.” Again, nothing wrong with that. The problem comes if you do not recognize that the season of your ministry has changed. Despite what your business card says, you are no longer a pastor. If your primary role is to oversee people who oversee people you are a bishop (overseer).

As a bishop, you are no longer called to draw people into your ministry. You are called to raise up, disciple, release, and oversee leaders who will draw people into their ministries. Somehow, we have lost the biblical importance of the offices laid out in the Scriptures. They are there for a reason. They bring order. Massive churches that meet in various cities to watch a man preach on a video is disorder defined.

Since these leaders have not heeded the change of ministry season, they stuck in a kind of ministry adolescence. They are old enough to reproduce but not old enough to father the offspring. They keep attracting fertile people but instead of marrying off sons they keep a harem.

What do you do when a room full of men want to worship you? Take out a rag and begin washing their feet. How does this look in this instance? When a ministry hits the place of reaping the harvest en mass, the goal has to switch to seeing how many sons can be released into ministry. Is your congregation getting to big for your already big building? Raise up a man and have him plant a church across town.

Is your church still growing too fast? Start another. Still growing? I propose that God is bringing sons to be married off to their calling. What happens if the leader sees the area saturated? Leave town, start again in another state, change the title on your business card to Apostle.

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If that great of an anointing is on your ministry, you are in sin not to use it to lead a network of churches. Imagine how large Paul’s ministry could have been in Ephesus had he stayed indefinitely. Instead he left and reproduced himself.

The only reason that a person would find the need to fill every pulpit that they built is that they either

  1. They do not think that God can raise up a preacher as good as they are
  2. They have not died to lust and greed.

Paul had great faith in the God who saved him to effectively work in the men he discipled. He was not consumed with building his own kingdom. He was not of the “bigger is better” mindset. Like Abraham, he was a father. He longed to see sons raised up and sent out. I believe it was in this spirit he wrote:

For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

How the church needs men like this today, and more importantly, they need to see that in having everything, they have nothing.

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A Biblical Multi-Site Vision

Allright, that title might be a little too pretentious but I read a post today that looks almost exactly like something I wanted to write. Being pentecostal, I obviously take that as confirmation and from there see myself on the side of God and of course all others are “against Him.” (hopefully you know I am kidding)

I wrote in my post multi-site church madness about my extreme displeasure regarding modern church growth techniques. Michael tried to bait me into addressing the cult of personality issue but I will not bite (in this post, it will surely happen soon). Nevertheless I was challenged about an alternate plan to having a video feed to an offsite location.

In this post I am going to try to frame the problem as I see it regarding multi-site video venues.

There is a giga-church about 45 minutes away from me. It is one of the largest in the nation and has really reaped a harvest in this area. One of its main benefits to the area is that most non-believers now have an answer when asked where they go to church. If you went to a Christmas service there in the last eight or nine years you can call it your church and not have to appease any of your Christian friends by attending their church when asked.

This church has also birthed a whole bunch of churches for its denomination in this area. They don’t call themselves a denomination but every church has the same name, plays the same music, preaches the same way, and uses a common logo. But they are all really different. Just ask the pastor. He is the guy who dresses, teaches, leads, and talks like every other leader in the “fellowship.”

One of their leaders took the leap of faith and planted a church in the town next to mine. He has been striking the ground for a few years and finally has a building. One of the obstacles to growth is that the mother giga-church is so close. But not everyone wants to drive that far to church so he had a hope.

One day, the mother giga-church had a great idea. “Why should everyone have to drive so far to attend our service? We can have a video venue for the people who live 45 minutes away!” That’s right. In the same city they have a plant, they now have a video venue. In less than a year that video venue is boasting just under 5,000 people in attendance. The church plant? Struggling to stay afloat.

The argument is often put forward that the attendance is proof that this is a great idea. All that matters, they say, is that souls are added. In short, the ends justify the means. The fact that the history of the mother church flies in the face of this does not matter.

The giga-church pastor often tells the story of how he struggled for years to keep 40 people in his congregation and at one point called the denominational headquarters fellowship’s head church. They told him that they would send some people to come pastor the small flock from their Bible school. This got the guy angry and renewed his resolve to make this plant work. Like I said, today the church is huge.

But lets conjecture for a minute. What if the head church planted a video venue in the town instead of letting this guy grow into a leader? What if the ends justified the means and they were more interested in “souls” then raising up leaders? Would this church have planted countless churches? Raised up countless missionaries? Would this man have come into his national calling? Would they have a radio station, ministry school, elementary, middle, and high school, school of worship, their own newspaper, halfway houses, foster homes, and who knows how many other ministries? I say they would not.

And therein lies the problem with the multi-site, video venue plan. You are robbing the Body of Christ from receiving its Timothys. I know you have a “campus pastor.” No, it is not the same thing. The person is an administrator and a counselor. That is a far cry from the call to shepherd.

Tomorrow I am going to finish this with my opinion of the root of this problem and put forward a solution. Let me know what you think.

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I Love You Tracey

Eight years ago today the former Tracey Penn obeyed God and said, “I do” to a crazy life with me.

Hopefully she has not regretted it too often. 

Two kids, a mortgage and a car payment later we are still in this thing called life together.

Btw, there is a phenomena that happens with old photos.  They kind of shrink laterally in random spots and as a result, people may look thinner than they are.  In this photo, it only happened to the right side.

I love you Tracey!  Thanks for hanging in there with me!

2006

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Stomach Cancer Miraculously Healed - Rev. A. A. Allen

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The Mission Needs

I have been urged by two different people in the last four days to put together a list of items we need to get The Mission off the ground and public. We have had some stuff donated and are scouring eBay for others. If you wish to donate you can contact me at pastor at themissionsouthflorida dot com. Or you can use the contact page on this site.

If you have equipment you would like to donate, I would gladly pay shipping. Please check the list, you might just have what we need.

The Mission Needs (pdf)

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HEaling on the Streets

Head on over to Mark’s blog and check this out.  Here is a snippet:

We sat him down and asked permission to place our hands gently on his hip and minister Father’s love and healing to him. He agreed. We thanked our Heavenly Daddy for His love and commanded a restoration of the man’s hip. Straight away, he said “this is lovely, I could stay here all morning”. We asked him what he meant and he explained that all the pain had lifted away and he couldn’t remember when he last wasn’t in pain.

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Multi-Site Church Madness

Have you ever noticed that multi-site church conferences are always held in one city? Why don’t all the speakers just tape their teachings onto a dvd and mail them out to everyone who wants them? Why have people fly in from all over the world if a video venue is so good?

Because it is not as good as being in the same room as the speaker. Has anyone seen a Spirit filled church do this successfully? Now, by Spirit filled, I don’t mean some of the staff has a “personal prayer language” that they reserve for times they are not on the mic. I mean a church that sees people healed, delivered, baptized in the Holy Ghost, giving out words of prophesy and anointed altar ministry. Could they do a video venue?

I don’t think so. How can a rhema word come if it was recorded yesterday in a different city? Is this nothing more than a warmed over Roman Catholic doctrine where the pope decides what people all over the world will hear each week? It does not matter if your community is in feast or famine, you will get the same word. Just had a death in the fellowship? You will get the same word as the fellowship that had a record attendance week.

And don’t let me get into the cult of personality issue.

Every time I see a new multi-site church campus I think of another preacher without a pulpit.

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This is Like a Bad Cliche

I got really excited last week when I realized that I only have one more payment to make on my minivan!  How we wound up buying it is a story most people tell before the phrase, “and we haven’t gone to church since.”

But I was pretty excited about getting ready to pay off the van when guess what? That’s right.

The van died on Friday.

I had to spend $250 (that I really don’t have) to get it fixed.  Like a bad joke.  But wouldn’t you know I got a check in the mail for $100 today that I was not expecting?  That’s God for ya.  Gonna look for the other buck fifty tomorrow.

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It’s Just Money, Right?

I was reading an analysis of the Mitt Romney campaign in the midst of his ending his presidential bid when I came across this,

Mr. Romney spent more than $35 million of his own money trying to get himself elected, but his campaign faced challenges from the start, some from obstacles beyond his control.

Now, as a church planter who is looking for used equipment on eBay, $35M seems like an enormous amount of money to spend on something that amounted to nothing.

On Sunday I am driving six hours to pick up a beat machine so I can save .00002% of that.

But it’s just money, right?

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Just Me and God

There is an article in the New York Times about Mart Green, the man who gave $70M to ORU. More importantly than the gift, the article is about a man who lives for God. There really are godly men in the business world who make lots of money and don’t let it affect who they are. Go read the article for yourself but here is a quote from Green that really blessed me:

”I feel like some day, when this life is over, it’ll be just me and God,” he says. ”It won’t be my mom, it won’t be my dad, it won’t be the cynics that are out there. It’ll just be me accountable for my life, and I want to live a life that I can say I did the best I could.”

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