I may be way off base here but I have to ask.
What is the connection between homosexuality and the prophetic?
Besides the “outing” of the senior prophetic minister last year, I know of more than one prophetic minister that I swear is gay. I do not know of any sexual immorality or I would have called them out by name. But the overtly effeminate speech and dress coupled with the manorisms and hair styles are too much for me.
There was a time that I thought the problem was me. I would see something and rebuke myself for thinking a certain way. Now I am just calling out the obvious. I get creeped out when I hear them teach or see them sache’ across the platform.
I am not hateful. I am not a homophobe. I have sin just like the next guy. But I see this pattern and I am trying to figure it out.
Has anyone else seen this? And why is this happening?
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I think we’ve been sharing a conversation over at Rich Tatums’s along a similar line. I have to admit, in today’s climate, you have courage admitting this.
We have. I am in the uniquely wonderful position of not being a paid staff member of a church. My mortgage does not depend on people not being upset with me.
I have wondered this for quite a while.
Have you seen it wherever you are? There are some national people who send up a warning flag for me, coupled with a prominent minister locally.
Were you angry at all in our discussion with Common Swift over at Rich Tatum’s? I know I wasn’t, didn’t feel any anger or hatred at all, but his last comment was an unchallenged assertion that we were. Wouldn’t have thought twice about it, but with this pending Hate Crimes legislation, it makes me wonder if that is a portent of things to come. I wonder if the strategy is too elicit from Bible upholding folks a stand against homosexuality that will then be brandished as hate speech. Any thoughts?
No, I was not angry in the least. He was talking pure nonsense. I have better things to do than waste time with that. I think that when people walk in that level of deception they can only hate others that don’t buy into their delusion.
As far as the hate crime legislation goes, I never thought about it before but I can see people baiting others into this type of thing. interesting.
Just to clarify: it’s not my commentary that’s nonsense, right? We’re talking about your view of Swift’s contributions to the dialog.
For what it’s worth, I’m somwewhat glad the conversation has died down. I plan to contribute a final piece in the next few days. Hopefully it won’t pick up again, but we’ll see.
As for this post, I’m uncomfortable when I spot effeminacy among preachers, just as I’m uncomfortable with very “mannish” women. There are degrees in the spectrum of what’s effiminate or mannish in everybody, I suppose, but the mincing steps and daintiness among men is simply troubling.
And it’s sometimes hard to draw the line between so-called “metrosexuals” (a term describing urbane fashion more than sexuality) and effeminacy. I guess it’s okay to get a manicure once in a while, especially after handling weapons all weekend (grin), but please don’t engage me in a discussion over the relative merits of various tanning salons or hand-lubricants.
Regards,
Rich.
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@Rich - I was most certainly talking about Swift’s (non)arguments. I used to engage those people ad nauseum. No more.
And I believe there is some validity to the KJV translation of 1 Cor 6:9 to effeminate instead of homosexuality, or that you don’t have to engage in the sexual act to be guilty of the sin.
@Rich
Nicely put!
Thanks, glad for the clarification!
Now I’m off to find my moisturizer. I think I left it in my man-bag.
Rich
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